How to Judge Wisely with God’s Help

Bible, Women & Bathrobes, Episode 39

Sermon on the Mount, part 20

Summary

Wendi, Tamara & Amy dove into Matthew 7:1-5 and emphasized the importance of discernment and self-awareness in judging others and personal growth. They stressed the need to be careful and seek wisdom before making judgments, and to observe and listen to people's stories. They also discussed the significance of prioritizing self-care and inviting Jesus into daily life to serve others with kindness and compassion. Additionally, they highlighted the importance of addressing one's own issues before trying to help others, practicing emotional intelligence, and fostering self-love in interpersonal connections.

Main Takeaways

• From Amy, “I was just thinking about how my job is not to heal. My job isn't to fix. . . In in Isaiah, chapter 61:1, he it talks about, “he was come to heal the brokenhearted, and he was come to bind up the wounds and do all of the things”. . . I really believe His job is to heal, and my job is to just bring people to Jesus. That's it.”
• From Wendi, “Being able to hear the Lord and have him help us in our understanding of how to look at a certain situation. . . Just keep turning to the Lord and asking Him, praying and asking him help me to see what I need to see and how I need to judge the situation. How do I respond even? . . . And he'll give us that ability, if we will just stop and listen.”
• From Tamara, “My biggest takeaway is how much we need Jesus, both to heal ourselves, but then to help us as we love and serve those around us. This is not a work we can go and do by ourselves, and if we do we do it poorly. So we need him by our side. That inspiration is key. Just taking the time every day to align ourselves with Him, to invite Him in, take the time to take care of ourselves, so that we can minister in the best way possible.”

Today’s Podcast Hosts & Guests

Tamara K. Anderson

Tamara, founder of Women Warriors of Light, is a dynamic speaker, award winning author, and a podcaster. She is driven by her Christian faith to inspire faith in Jesus Christ. Alongside her husband, Justin, she navigates the joys and challenges of parenting four children with autism, ADHD, and mental health hurdles. You can find out more about Tamara on her website: https://www.tamarakanderson.com/

Wendi Christensen, LCSW

Wendi is the co-founder of Women Warriors of Light. In addition to being a wife and mother, she is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker with over 28 years of experience. Wendi is an intuitive counselor helping individuals release pain, renew hope, and restore light through forgiveness. You can find out more about Wendi on her website: https://wendichristensencounseling.com/

Amy Johnson

Amy is a member of our Women Warriors of Light Advisory Board. She is a leader of women, a homemaker, and a licensed cosmetologist. Amy enjoys nurturing women through betrayal trauma to becoming a beacon of support and inspiration.

Transcript

If you’d like to read the transcript of today’s episode, you can find it on our Women Warriors of Light website blog. Link in the bio.

Tamara Anderson  0:00 

Have you ever noticed a character flaw, perhaps in your spouse, a friend, a neighbor, a child that really, really bugs you, and you are determined to help them fix this flaw? Well, today we're going to talk about this from the Sermon on the Mount and a few of Jesus's words that might give us a little enlightenment on the subject. So stay tuned.

Tamara Anderson  0:28 

Welcome to Bible, Women & Bathrobes, the podcast where faith meets comfort. Join us Tuesday and Thursday morning as the gals from Women Warriors of Light and their guests don bathrobes and dive into the inspiring stories of women in the Bible and the teachings of Jesus Christ, from Esther's bravery to the Sermon on the Mount. We explore it all with warmth, laughter, sisterhood and maybe even a few sleepy eyed moments. Tune in live or at your leisure, as we learn lessons from scripture which empower women today.

Tamara Anderson  1:09 

Hello and welcome to another episode of Bible, Women and Bathrobes. I'm your host, Tamara K Anderson, and joining me today is my co founder from Women Warriors of Light, Wendi Christensen, welcome back, Wendi!

Wendi Christensen  1:22 

Good morning. Thanks for having me on Tamara.

Tamara Anderson  1:25 

And we're also blessed to have Amy Johnson with us this morning. Amy, welcome back.

Amy Johnson  1:30 

Good morning. Thank you.

Tamara Anderson  1:33 

Alright guys, we have fun set of verses to cover here this morning. And if you want to join us, we are in Matthew chapter seven, and we're going to cover verses one through five of the Sermon on the Mount today, and it's all about judging others.

Tamara Anderson  1:49 

So this is one of those that we're just going to get out our little pickaxes and stab a little bit, because we're going to get pricked a little bit. So let me start off with the first two verses, and we can discuss those and then dive into the rest. So it starts off. It says, "Judge not that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged, and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again." And so basically, he's just, he's opening this up to we're talking about judging others today, and what Jesus has to say about this. And I'm just going to open that up. Amy, let's start with you. Those first two verses. Anything stand out to you?

Amy Johnson  2:40 

Yeah, I just, I don't know why, but for the first time ever, it occurred to me, I guess I've always read that and thought that, For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged, meaning at the last day by the Lord. But for the first time today, it occurred to me that maybe it's kind of a what you put out there, you get back type of thing. And maybe, maybe people who are not so judgy don't get judged quite so harshly by their peers. It's never really occurred to me until today, but maybe that's not all about. Because Christ is the perfect judge. We know that. And so I can't see, I can't see a world where he's going to judge exactly how I judged in this life, right? I'm in trouble, right? And so, but I can see how, what you I've seen many, many times in my life where what you put out there is exactly what you get back and so maybe, maybe that's more what it is, what you what you put out you attract.

Tamara Anderson  3:51 

Yeah, good thoughts. I like it. Wendi?

Wendi Christensen  3:55 

Yeah, that is a really good thought. You mean? Because I think we, I totally believe that we attract to us what we put out there. We kind of all vibrate at a certain level. And if you're vibrating at a really judgmental, judgy level, that's, that's what you're seeing, that's, that's obviously all you're seeing. And so of course, you're going to attract that back to you, right? And that's what you're going to see. What you're bringing back to you. It's interesting. I pulled up the the New International Version, and I mean, it's very similar. "Do not judge or you too will be judged. Or in the same way you judge others, you will be judged. And with the measure you measure, it will be measured by you or to you."

Wendi Christensen  4:40 

So just another way of looking at it, of course, but I think that we have to be careful. I was thinking about actually social media. I feel like there's, you know, it's such an easy thing to judge others, and it's. I mean, it doesn't necessarily say righteously, but I think there's a we. I think I don't know we have to look at it. Sometimes we judge others in good ways, right? Sometimes you have to judge somebody to know, hey, is this person safe? Are they trustworthy? Do they have good boundaries? Do they not have good boundaries? So I think it's okay in some ways to judge, but then there's also bad ways that we judge, where I know I have totally misjudged somebody, where I think, oh, this person is not that great. And then once I get to know them, I realize, oh, I completely misjudged them. So I think he's just telling us, You have to be careful the way that you judge people. But I don't think it's completely wrong either, because I think I have to be careful.

Wendi Christensen  5:48 

You know, I've had bad vibes about somebody, and I've also been right about that. So I think he's just saying that Be careful in the way that you judge and and be careful in the way that you see things. And that's why I always like to I'm a person that loves to observe, but that comes with the job of what I do. I observe people's behaviors, and I like to hear their stories, because everyone has a story. I think it's important to hear that story before we carefully Be careful in judging them, if that makes sense, and that's hard with like social media that I was talking about, because sometimes we people put their best foot forward on social media, and so sometimes I might judge them as being they have everything put together. Their life is so put together, and I compare myself to them, and then I realize, oh, wait a minute, that's I'm looking at it from a skewed perception. Their life really isn't always put together. That's just sometimes what people portray on social media. So I don't know, we could probably go on for another whole episode about social media, but I think we just have to be careful in in how we judge people, there's a lot that goes into judging people,

Tamara Anderson  7:07 

Yeah, and I agree with you, Wendi, on the fact that God has told us to seek out good friends and to be good Friends, and so there is a certain amount of wisdom that comes from meeting new people. And like you said, what kind of vibes Am I getting from from this person? So I think he does want us to use our brains so that you know you're not inviting a wolf in sheep's clothing into your inner circle and stuff like that. So listen to you know, your motherly intuition, your gut feelings, those are often right, but but also be careful once you get I think this is also especially once you get to know people. And we get you know, the more we get to know someone, the more we can kind of see back beyond those initial facade that people put up. We get to see the true them, the authentic them, and it has flaws, right? And so just being careful that, and I guess this kind of feeds into those next few verses.

Tamara Anderson  8:23 

So we so we may as well dive into those as well. Um, in verse three through five, it says, and "why, beholdest thou the moat that is in thy brother's eye, but consider not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how will thou say to thy brother, let me pull out the moat out of thine eye, and behold, a beam is in thine own eye. Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the moat out of thy brother's eye."

Tamara Anderson  8:56 

And in modern day terms, I was trying to think of of how we could compare this, because we don't know moat and beam very well, you know, those words don't kind of jive with us. And I was thinking like, your brother has like a sliver in his eye, and you have this gigantic piece of lumber poking out of yours, like I I'm picturing like this, this huge piece of wood. It's so big, it's completely obscuring your vision, you know?

Tamara Anderson  9:28 

And so that's what I was kind of thinking here, is you have to be able to see clearly if you're going to try to help somebody with their challenges that you have addressed your own and I'm sure Wendi, coming from a therapist perspective, this probably has a lot of meaning in it. You know that you have to be careful that you've taken care of you before you start helping other people. But I think all of us, at some level, as we. So as Christians, we desire to love and help and serve others, and sometimes, as we're doing that, we make it a little judgy and stuff like that. So I think that's what he's cautioning us against, is just don't go pointing fingers. Because, you know, they what they say about pointing fingers. You got several pointing back at you. So first look at yourself. Do I have anything I need to work on today? You know, I've noticed this and so and so. Am I judging righteously? And is there something I need to work on, perhaps first, so that I can see this situation more clearly? I don't know, Wendi, we'll start with you on this one.

Wendi Christensen  10:39 

Yeah, yeah, that's that's a hard thing to do. And as a therapist, something that you know, I've done this for over 20 years, 25 years. And sometimes when you're meeting with someone, it will prick your own junk, right? And in school, they taught us that, if that happens, they call it what they call the terms transference and counter transference, where you have to be very careful that you don't project your own junk on to other people, your own stuff, your own issues. You have to be really, really careful not to do that and and be careful not to go, oh yeah, I totally relate to that. Like that you I mean, it's hard, it's hard not to but to completely remove yourself from that person situation and just show up for that person. That's a hard, hard thing to do, or at least to be honest with yourself, when you know that it's worked your own stuff, and then you get to go work on that on your own, whether that's with another therapist or somebody else so It doesn't interfere with your own stuff.

Wendi Christensen  11:47 

And I'd had that where I've been sitting in a session with somebody and I'm like, Oh, wow, this is like, totally getting my own stuff. And you have to be careful not to lecture them about how you should be handling it in your own life, right? So it's a hard place to be very, very neutral in that space. But you do, I mean, to be a professional, you have to, like, totally put that aside and go, Okay, I'm going to deal with this on another time, another space. And as you were talking, I thought about, you're right. You have to deal with that in your own space, so that you're not projecting that onto that person who you can show up just for that person and be there in their story and jump into their story and be there just for them.

Wendi Christensen  12:29 

That's a hard thing to do and to practice, but that's how the Savior did it. Like the Savior, even though he was perfect, we know he was perfect, so he didn't have these issues that he brought when he was working with people, but that is a very Christ like thing to do, is to show he showed up in people's stories and was just there and present for them wherever they were in their story, right where, wherever they needed him to show up. He was able to show up in that way, even for the the Pharisees and the Sadducees, he showed up in their story wherever they needed him to be. So I don't know, I think it's a very Christ like thing to do, but it can be really challenging to do, to not to be able to just be there with the person and not bring your own stuff.

Wendi Christensen  13:19 

Because, yes, sometimes we have a lot more stuff that we need to deal with that we're not dealing with, and it's too many times we project onto other people. I see it all the time, especially in abusive situations where the person who is abusing has a lot of junk that they're projecting onto their victim, which is never fair to that victim, but they they do, they project a lot of stuff, and to to be able to not do that is that's a skill that I don't think that a lot of people in order to do that, you have to practice being emotionally intelligent, being aware of your emotions, understanding Your emotions and not just reacting to everybody around you. That makes sense. Hopefully that all made it made sense. It's early morning.

Tamara Anderson  14:09 

I know it really, really is, my goodness. Amy thoughts on this next part, moats and beams.

Amy Johnson  14:17 

The whole thing for me is about being able to see things as they really are, um, and when I think about the you know, you're looking at someone else and you're seeing the moat in their eye, I Always think about, I think about projecting a lot, because it's a very real thing. And I think when you see the moat in their eye, it looks like it's huge. If it's something you deal with, it's huge. It looks bigger in them. Yeah. Because it's actually yours, and so it's more it's more close up, right? And we know perspective, the closer something is, the bigger it looks, right? When I remember raising my daughter and thinking, Man, this child like I, how am I going to raise her? She is tough. And then one day, I just remember thinking, she's so much like you, she's so much like you.

Amy Johnson  15:30 

And so then once I embraced that, well, what really happened was my mom and I did not get along growing up at all. Um, we're really good friends now, but we did not get along, and I it was, I was dealing with my daughter, and I had that thought, your mom and you were a lot of are a lot alike. And I never thought that, because people always told me I looked like my dad and I loved like my dad, and I was like my dad, and then, but I raised my kids like my mom. I'm very diligent in the gospel. I was a very intentional parent. I I really believe that in parenting, I answer to God more than I answer to anybody else, and what he thinks matters more than what the world thinks. And so and that's I really believe what my mom did. And so I was sitting there, and I was like, Man, I'm so much like my mom, no wonder we fought. Then all of a sudden, I was like, Oh, no wonder if I knew it my daughter, because we're so much alike.

Amy Johnson  16:29 

And so as that happened, I started to realize that, if that, if I could just be aware that I was getting triggered by things I saw in her that I knew came from me. Then it changed everything. And so I think it's about getting getting your vision clear, clear, getting your vision expanded, getting your understanding, just everything more grand and more divine and more God like and that allows us then to judge the situation clearly. Because I totally agree with what Wendi said about sometimes you need to not be with people because they don't have the proper boundaries and things. And I don't think it's so much about judging people as it is judging the situation. You're not good for me, you're this. This isn't good for me and and that's a situation I can judge really easily.

Amy Johnson  17:29 

And I've, I've watched marriages like that, where they love each other, but they are just bad for each other. Influences. They just bring each other down to do really, really bad things, especially living downtown, and sometimes you have to distance yourself. You learn that in AA, right? You have to not go back to the same friends, so you have to judge the situation more accurately. And I don't think you can do that unless you ask God to expand your vision, and clear your view.

Tamara Anderson  18:03 

Oh, my goodness, I It's interesting. As I was pondering this, a story just keeps popping up into my mind, and it happened this summer. We had a family reunion at the Oregon coast, and all of my husband's family gathered there, and there's a whole bunch of us, cuz there's eight kids in this family. And so all my nieces and nephews. And one of my nieces came in, you know, she and her cousins were just running around, having the time of their lives, and she came in, and she's like, Mom and Dad, I've got these slivers in my feet, and they really, really hurt. And her mom and dad, you know, they've got several other kids, and they're trying to juggle them. And I said, Hey, you know, I have some tweezers up in my apartment that we were staying in, and do you want me to go get those? And her parents are like, yeah, that would be great. Because they couldn't take care of it with everything else going on.

Tamara Anderson  18:59 

So I ran up to our apartment, you know, grabbed the tools I had, like, two pair of tweezers, and I also grabbed my readers, because I wanted to be able to see more clearly and and I grabbed a few other things. And then I came and I needed light, and I needed my readers so I could see the very end of that little she had, like five slivers on the bottom of her feet because she was running around barefoot outside. And it took me a while to get those darn things out. Some of them came out super easy, and some of them it just took a while to get get it completely out. But we got them all out eventually.

Tamara Anderson  19:41 

And it's kind of made me pause and look at this a little bit differently, as far as when we help others, that we often need tools. And I thought it interesting that one of the things I really needed was I needed a light to do it. I needed. And so that's symbolic of the Savior, inviting the Savior into that when you're helping and serving and loving others through something like that, helping them get something out, you know that you need his light and that we also need tools to help magnify so we can see clearly. You know, thank goodness my eyes aren't terrible yet. I'm only in point five readers and at that occasionally. But you know, I needed to be able to see the end of that if I was going to help and not hurt.

Tamara Anderson  20:32 

So by myself, I am flawed. You know, my vision isn't like as good as it used to be, and so I need that magnification, and then I needed additional tools to help me remove the slivers, the splinters and and so I thought I'd throw that out there. What tools I mean, obviously, besides the light of the Savior, do you think are helpful as we minister to others, or as we try to take care of these issues in ourselves. And I thought I'd open that up. Wendi?

Wendi Christensen  21:11 

well, of course, the first one I think of is being compassionate with ourselves and forgiving ourselves and being careful with judgment of ourselves, because if I'm if I'm more loving and kind to myself, I can be loving and kind to other people around me, and I think that's a tool right to be able to understand myself and be able to keep myself as much compassion, not judging myself so harshly, either. You know, with that self criticism and having some self compassion, believe it or not, that does help me in blessing people around me, even Brene Brown, who's very famous for doing a lot of she has a lot of work. She talks a lot about vulnerability and shame, and she says that. She says, as we love and care for ourselves, she found that wholehearted people that do wholehearted living, as they learn to love themselves and be patient understanding that you serve others better, believe it or not, so, and I'm summarizing what she's saying.

Tamara Anderson  22:20 

No, no, that's that. Well, that's what we need. We need this summary, right?

Wendi Christensen  22:25 

Exact words, but, but it's and I remember the first time I heard that, though, and she was talking about that when I was listening, I was reading her book, and and I thought, no, you can love other people without, like, truly loving yourself. And I was like, you can truly love other people fully and completely without loving yourself. And then I sat there, I really, really thought about it and pondered it. And I thought, I think that research is right, because she had done this research for 10 years, a decade. And I was like, I think that research is right. The more I thought about it, I'm like, as I love myself more, I show up better for the people around me and I show up better for those that I'm working with as I take care of myself and I'm not so harsh and critical of myself, but if I'm very judgmental and harsh and critical of myself, I'm grumpy with other people, and I'm not able to hear their stories and to show up just for them.

Wendi Christensen  23:20 

So I think in some ways it starts with us, right? Because if I can love myself more and show some compassion more, it's that oxygen mask, you know concept from the airplane, when it drops down, you need to put it on yourself first and then put it on your kids. Well, I think it's the same for people, right? And mankind, if I can get the oxygen for myself and then I can serve and bless people even better around me. If I'm not so judgmental and critical and harsh of myself, then I can truly love and show up. It's just like a mom they're trying to take care of their kids, and if they're depleted and exhausted and overwhelmed, you know, then, then they don't show up for their kids very lovingly. Hey, if I don't, if I don't show up, then I I'm exhausted and tired and yelling and grumpy, and go away and get out of my space with other people. But if I show love towards myself and take care of myself, then I'm like, Yeah, I can show up and be present for my kids. Even better. I see that in just my everyday life, like I show up better for them. I show up better for my clients. They show up better for my spouse, my husband. So I don't, I think there's a lot of that that plays into this as well, yeah,

Tamara Anderson  24:35 

well, and you can see that, and what he's teaching us, you know, hypocrite cast. Get the beam out of your own. I get that huge piece of wood sticking out of your own eye out, and then you can better help me serve my people around me. So I love that compassion, self-love, which then radiates out as the Savior's love. Amy?

Amy Johnson  24:58 

for me, it all comes. Comes down to being close to the Savior, being close to Jesus, being in tune. I was listening to someone talk about yesterday in church, about, you know, their thoughts on how to raise a child the way God would have us raise him, essentially. And they, they had some really great ideas. But as I sat there and pondered, I realized, for me, it's really, if I can hear the voice of the Lord, I'm good, because he'll tell me what to do with my kids. He'll tell me what to do with me. He'll tell me what to do with my spouse. He'll, he'll tell me all the things that I need to know. And that doesn't mean I'm going to hear him perfectly, because we're super broken. But if I can work every day on hearing his voice, it changes everything. It really does. It changes everything i I've had many times where I've sat and been in my own little darkness trying to figure out me and the voice of the Lord will come through and break through, and I will see, oh, things aren't exactly as I had been looking at them, and it's just enough of a shift in my thought that allows me to pull out of the darkness.

Amy Johnson  26:31 

The other thought I had was about taking care of ourselves and not being so hard on ourselves. Is bullied people bully. So if you're bullying yourself, you're going to bully other people. It's just fact you have to stop bullying yourself to be able to stop bullying other people. Bully people bully it's not always true. I do have one son who you know doesn't seem to be a bully, even though he was bullied most of his life growing up. But it is really common for bullied people to bully, especially the longer they've been bullied. And if you're 53 like I am, and you've been bullying yourself your whole life, then you've been bullied for a long, long time.

Tamara Anderson  27:17 

Yeah, I like that. I was thinking as you were talking about how God helps shift your perspective when you turn it to him and ask for inspiration guidance, it's kind of like putting on those reading glasses you can see more clearly the situation and how God can help us remove those big pieces of wood out of our eyes so that we can see the situation more clearly. And so really, judgment is something that I think He's inviting us to do with him as I kind of boil this down, we can best judge when we are, as as you both have said, when we invite God in so that we can see ourselves clearly enough to help and heal and then go about helping and loving and serving others.

Tamara Anderson  28:15 

But each situation is so unique and different. I remember wishing when my kids were little, and even now, especially as they're now all adults, that they came with instruction manuals. But the great news is, we with God and learning to listen to him, it is like having an instruction manual, because God knows each child, each of his children perfectly, and he knows how to best help each of his children perfectly. And as we desire to help lift and serve and minister to those around us, he can inspire us to know how to best do that. You know which tools we need to use, and perhaps we need to invest in learning how to better use those tools so that we can better help and serve others, kind of like Wendi was talking about having to get educated so that she could do that professionally. So this is really good guys. Alright, let's wrap it up. Takeaways. Amy?

Amy Johnson  29:20 

I was just thinking about how my job is not to heal. My job isn't to fix. My job isn't that's his job. In in Isaiah, chapter 61 verse one, he it talks about he was, he was come to heal the brokenhearted, and he was come to bind up the wounds and and do all of the things. And then I was thinking about this event that happened in Mark chapter two. "And straightway, many were gathered together in so much that there was no room to receive them. No not so much of. Out the door, and they come unto him, bringing one sick of the palsy, which was born of four. And when they could not come nigh for the press, they uncovered the roof where he was, and when they had broken it up, they let down the bed wherein the sick of palsy lay." And I really believe His job is to heal, and my my job is to just bring people to Jesus. That's it. That's my job. I can't fix them. I can't even fix myself, let alone somebody else. I'm not the Master Healer. He is and and so if I judge the situation righteously, then nothing and I and I'm in tune with the Lord, nothing will prevent me from doing my job, which is bringing people to the Master Healer. And that's what I just think my biggest takeaway from today is.

Tamara Anderson  30:52 

Love it. Wendi?

Wendi Christensen  30:55 

that's beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. I would agree. I think it's, you know, being able to hear the Lord and have him help us in our understanding of how to look at a certain situation. I mean, I I just look at you, look at the world today that's got so many voices out there, so many voices that are trying to be heard and want you to be on their side or believe what they believe and believe. You know where I'm at. We're in a political year. We've got so many things being thrown at us that it's hard to know. Who do I believe? What do I believe?

Wendi Christensen  31:41 

But I think if we just like Amy said earlier, we just keep turning to the Lord and asking Him, praying and asking him help me to see what I need to see and how I need to judge the situation. How do I respond even? How do I react to this situation and letting him help guide us that we will be able to see things as we need to see things right, and to judge them the way that he would judge them, and that will help us in being able to, especially, I think, when it sometimes it causes fear or anxiety for us, but will help us to be able to see things more clearly and the way that we need to that's going to be in our best interest. And he'll give us that ability, if we will just stop and listen. That's just the being able to stop and listen and hear.

Tamara Anderson  32:37 

It's true. It's very true. I guess my biggest takeaway is how much we need Jesus, both to heal ourselves, but then to help us as we love and serve those around us. This is not a work we can go and do by ourselves, and if we do we do it poorly, you know. So we need him by our side. That inspiration is key. So aligning, I think, just taking the time every day to align ourselves with him, to invite Him in, take the time to take care of ourselves, so that we can minister in the best way possible. We can be kind to ourselves and then shine that kindness and compassion to others, as you guys have talked about so beautifully.

Tamara Anderson  33:37 

Oh, guys, this has been a really good episode. Thank you so much for joining me and joining us as we talked about judging and and hope that you can take just one little bit of something we shared today and incorporated in. Don't look at the mountain in front of you, just look at the next step and take one step towards becoming a little better in judging others with Jesus Christ by your side.

Tamara Anderson  34:04 

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